Fate/stay night Unlimited Blade Works Epilogue & Sunny Day

I've seen this shot about four times now

This makes it the fourth time I’ve seen this shot

Okay, so I’m back to wrap up the Fate/stay night Unlim­it­ed Blade Works post I start­ed ages ago.

Instead of squeez­ing in the VN’s orig­i­nal epi­logue at the end of the pre­vi­ous episode, Ufotable did a great thing by pro­duc­ing an entire extra episode with new mate­r­i­al depict­ing what hap­pens after the orig­i­nal route, along­side the remain­ing source mate­r­i­al. As a result, I think episode 25 in itself is worth watch­ing for read­ers of the visu­al nov­el regard­less if you think the rest of the show is a bad adap­ta­tion or not (I per­son­al­ly thought it was great, but it was cer­tain­ly a bit shaky here and there).

Tohsaka pls

It was great see­ing Rin and Shi­rou grow up a bit. Although I miss the twin­tails, see­ing Rin drop the tsun­dere atti­tude and being more hon­est about being a lov­ing girl for Shi­rou over­all makes come off as more mature, and it was neat see­ing how tall Shi­rou got in such a short timeskip. He’s going to match Archer’s jug­ger­naut height in no time.

This entire episode was just that: a fun clo­sure to the char­ac­ters. Good fun. It also made me feel like I want Ufotable to team up with Nasu to cre­ate a Mag­ic School spin-off of Fate. Grant­ed, such an idea would­n’t be the same with­out Illya or Saber.

Don't touch my man, bitch

I hon­est­ly did­n’t think I’d ever get to see Luvia ani­mat­ed by Ufotable until a Fate/Hollow Atarax­ia adap­ta­tion became a thing, so it was a real­ly great treat see­ing her here.

I mean, she’s in the Fate/kaleid lin­er Pris­ma Illya ani­me, but I nev­er liked how Sil­ver Link drew the Fate char­ac­ters’ eyes in com­par­i­son to the orig­i­nal man­ga by KALMIA. Although, speak­ing of which, at the time when I watched the episode, the Luvia scenes got me pret­ty hyped for 2wei herz!, which aired a few weeks after my birth­day (Sil­ver Link knows I’m an Illyafag? Hrm).

Fight for SHEROU

Thought it was all going to be fluff? Hah! Tohsa­ka and Luvia cat­fights are nev­er fluff.

Imag­ine if their Pris­ma coun­ter­parts had cat­fights like this all the time. Jeez.

Shiki can kill Servants btw

I’m still not sure if this is a Shi­ki cameo. If it is, what’s he doing at the Mage’s Asso­ci­a­tion in London?

RIP Moe Arthur

It was a neat touch hav­ing Shi­rou and Rin vis­it King Arthur’s actu­al real life grave in Glas­ton­burg Abbey to pay respects to their fall­en Saber… it makes me hap­py that her dis­ap­pear­ing in the True End isn’t just an after­thought for them. I’ll just leave this here.

Sakura x Shinji Femdom when

I know Saku­ra’s prob­a­bly being a cheeky sis­ter to [the sup­pos­ed­ly reformed] Shin­ji here, but know­ing what their abu­sive rela­tion­ship is like in Heav­en’s Feel gives me the impres­sion that there’s some creepy con­text behind that smile, to be honest.

Yeah, eat that apple, you piece of shit niisan.

You’ll know what I mean when Heav­en’s Feel gets animated…

With his buttbuddy Rider gone, he has been through a lot

This might have flew over Zero fan­boy heads, but Lord El-Mel­loi II (who appears in Pris­ma too, fyi) is actu­al­ly Waver in his thir­ties. Then again, most peo­ple prob­a­bly would have found that out already before this slow-ass post. lol

Fun fact: You might not tell from the way he looks, but Iskan­der left such a big impres­sion on him that appar­ent­ly he’s now a giant vidya otaku.

The path of GArcher is not wrong

EMIYA’s clos­ing words are what made the VN UBW end pret­ty strong­ly for me, per­son­al­ly. They already (bril­liant­ly) incor­po­rat­ed some of EMIYA’s “Answer” in his actu­al bat­tle against young Shi­rou, but in terms of the ani­me, the remain­ing por­tion of his “per­son­al con­clu­sion” still wraps UBW’s end nice­ly as a narrative.

The path of GARcher...or...

…but one dif­fer­ence is that the ani­me ends off with a shot of Shi­rou wan­der­ing the waste­lands alone in EXTRA Archer’s desert out­fit. It’s a pret­ty epic shot to end off with, but I don’t feel like I par­tic­u­lar­ly enjoy the over­all impli­ca­tions. What hap­pened to Tohsa­ka? Word of God already makes it clear that UBW Shi­rou won’t become Archer EMIYA, but it feels like he’s going to have a rough life regard­less, espe­cial­ly if the one hope Archer left off with (Rin) is gone from the picture.

I’m just going to avoid tak­ing the lit­er­al scene at face val­ue and assume that Shi­rou does end up going through sim­i­lar path as Archer, but Rin’s still there to sup­port him and pre­vent him from mak­ing any fatal mis­takes, like form­ing a con­tract with Alaya. The hero EMIYA will come into exis­tence, but the Counter Guardian EMIYA will nev­er be born, at least in their world.

Walking with the wind blowing on your face.
Walking towards the future.
Busy days with no compass to guide you.
After traveling to distant exotic countries…
You will return to where you belong, one sunny day.

Alternate Ending (Sunny Day)

I wub Seiba

Oh boy, the three­some end­ing. Just think: had Ufotable decid­ed to rack up on the Saber points, we would have got­ten this instead of episode 25!

I’m not gonna lie. If Illya did­n’t exist, Saber would be my favorite Fate girl with Rin run­ning up there pret­ty close. Saber’s edge is well… just look at that scree­nie. Nig­ga das so kewt.

But sim­i­lar­ly to how I feel about their VN coun­ter­parts… sev­en min­utes worth of Saber fanser­vice isn’t remote­ly com­pa­ra­ble to what we end­ed up get­ting as com­pen­sa­tion for her dis­ap­pear­ing. Ufotable going out of their way to ani­mate the alter­nate end­ing for the BD kind of proves how it fares against the True End. But hey, maybe I’m not giv­ing that thought a chance. It’s not like I’d mind Saber/Rin/Emiya hijinks in Fuyu­ki, I guess, and it’s not like they ani­mat­ed any­thing oth­er than what was shown in the visu­al nov­el either. Ufotable spiced up the True End­ing by show­ing us the actu­al Lon­don stuff.

Speak­ing of alter­nate end­ings, you know what would be cool? If Ufotable went out of their way to ani­mate every sin­gle Bad End as omake after they’re done with Heav­en’s Feel. I keep hear­ing about Shi­rou’s “plot armor” and what­not, but peo­ple would be sur­prised at how many ways he can die over the course of the sto­ry just from mak­ing a slight­ly dif­fer­ent deci­sion. Hell, choos­ing to bail out of the Holy Grail War after Kotomine’s expla­na­tion gets him CRUSHED BY BERSERKER.

Fate Route remake when

Fate route remake/Last Episode ani­mat­ed when

Meh route, great girl.

2 thoughts on “Fate/stay night Unlimited Blade Works Epilogue & Sunny Day

  1. Very good sum­ma­ry XD

    A clar­i­fi­ca­tion: In the ani­me when Rin takes Shi­rou to Glagow to allow him to pay his respects to Saber the only one that actu­al­ly pays those respects is Shi­rou, not Rin (plus she says so as well: “you remem­ber how you told me that day that you wished you had the chance to say a prop­er good­bye. Now’s your chance”. Once they reach the tomb Rin says: “I’ll give you some time alone” and goes away to pre­pare the pic­nic. Shi­rou then says his good­bye words in front of her tomb. Well, I guess she could have said good­bye too while in the pic­nic with Shi­rou. At the end he says: “Thanks for tak­ing me there, it means a lot”.

    About the “three­some end­ing”, it is my believe it is just Shi­rou X Rin in the anime.

    In my opin­ion the UBW good end­ing (sun­ny day) is just Rin X Shi­rou in the ani­me (ova) . In the VN (and the ani­me if you don’t believe my next argu­ments) it would be Shi­rou’s harem (argu­ments 1–4).

    The rea­sons why I believe the ani­me is just Rin X Shirou:

    - Nasu said the ani­me occurs in a dif­fer­ent uni­verse with dif­fer­ent laws. Mana trans­fer, as shown in episode 20, doesn’t hap­pen through sex. Things can’t be tak­en from the Nasu­verse cause it doesn’t apply to this uni­verse. This uni­verse uses Real­ta Nua method.

    We can’t assume Rin is even bi-curi­ous either as we can’t take any­thing from oth­er routes giv­en this is a com­plete­ly dif­fer­ent uni­verse and oth­er routes would hap­pen in a dif­fer­ent way as well.

    Nasu said that in the ani­me the ones in a rela­tion­ship are Rin and Shi­rou. The ani­me shows Rin is straight. She is 100% focused on Shi­rou as a love part­ner. Then again, you can’t take any info from oth­er routes cause this is a dif­fer­ent uni­verse with dif­fer­ent rules and even the char­ac­ters are dif­fer­ent. In oth­er routes there would be no mana trans­fer through sex and
    Nasu also said the ani­me changes were rel­e­vant and that actions speak. Now, let’s see some of those changes just on the 7 minute (with­out cred­its) OVA.

    1. In the VN when talk­ing about the mana trans­fer all 3 of them are togeth­er. Shi­rou asks what his mana boost will be like and Saber says she wants to know as well how Shi­rou will boost mana. Rin blush­es a lot.

    In the ani­me this is a pri­vate con­ver­sa­tion between Shi­rou and Rin. Saber just stands 20 meters away look­ing into blank space.
    How do I inter­pret this?: They’re hav­ing a pri­vate con­ver­sa­tion and Saber knows that. Them being togeth­er means it’s just the 2 of them in love relat­ed mat­ters. Saber is an out­sider there, and waits for them to finish.

    2. In the VN Rin pulls saber (last CG). In the ani­me she grabs Shirou’s arm with both her arms, pulling him with one arm after­wards. Again, this shows Rin and Shi­rou are the hap­py cou­ple and removes pos­si­ble doubts.

    The rea­sons why I believe the VN is Shi­rou’s harem (and maybe the ova too if you don’t think it’s just Rin X Shi­rou) are:

    1. Saber:

    Shi­rou and Rin love each oth­er so who­ev­er saber likes will be the decid­ing fac­tor. In a harem sev­er­al peo­ple have feel­ings for some­one. Who does saber like? 

    There is one whole route ded­i­cat­ed to the love between Shi­rou and Arturia. In “the last episode” saber waits for thou­sands of years for Shi­rou and cries when she sees him.
    In the UBW ani­me Rin says saber is way to ded­i­cat­ed to Shi­rou. In episode 23 saber says “Shi­rou, you are still my mas­ter”, in episode 24 before dying saber says “I am hap­py because Shi­rou has Rin”. In the V.N saber flirts with Shi­rou as Rin states and she says she stays just for him.
    If we look the oth­er way we’ll see that after Rin is forced to have sex with saber in the fate route H‑scene saber’s mind is 100% set on Shi­rou, it’s as if noth­ing ever hap­pened with Rin. This proves that no mat­ter what Rin does, saber nev­er sees Rin as a love interest.
    In the good end­ing the bond between Shi­rou and saber is even stronger than that of the true end­ing, strong enough for saber to kill Rin while destroy­ing the Grail with­out the need of a com­mand seal, although that did­n’t hap­pen as Archer saved Rin in the last second.
    So we have a saber class ser­vant that will­ing­ly states “Shi­rou, you are still my mas­ter” (episode 23) while hav­ing anoth­er mas­ter, she will­ing­ly almost kills her real mas­ter and in the visu­al nov­el after Rin saves her she flirts with her mas­ter’s boyfriend. 

    In Fate Hol­low Atarax­ia (the sequel to the VN) eclipse scenes we are shown that Heav­en’s Feel is Shi­rou’s harem because Rid­er is fuck­ing him. There is anoth­er scene which is very inter­est­ing, the saber scene. In the game saber comes from the UBW good end­ing uni­verse. Her eclipse scene is her going inside the bath­room while Shi­rou is bathing. Shi­rou tells her to wait but she tells him not to wror­ry, she undress­es and bathes with him. After a while Shi­rou gets turned on and he says he’s unable to resist his instincts, so he they have sex. Saber was very hap­py Shi­rou would allow her to make love to him.
    So we see that Rin can’t lock Saber-Shi­rou from hap­pen­ing even if she wants. If all 3 of them are liv­ing togeth­er Saber can take any lit­tle chance to do that and let’s not for­get it is an eroge in which Shi­rou gives love points to both girls, a Saber-Shi­rou end­ing should hap­pen just like Rid­er X Shi­rou is con­firmered in Heav­en’s Feel thanks to Fate Hol­low Ataraxia.
    The fact that Rin tells saber not to flirt with Shi­rou is proof of that some­thing’s there and it’s been just 5 min­utes of them talk­ing since the war ended.

    2. Saber is Rin’s servant. 

    If Rin had set saber free or giv­en her back to Shi­rou, Rin would have had to have sex with Saber out of neces­si­ty to give her mana (as there would be no mas­ter- ser­vant rela­tion­ship that would be the only way). Now, since saber and Rin main­tained their pact Rin has no need to have sex with her (as she sup­plies mana con­stant­ly thanks to her immense mag­i­cal knowl­edge) and it would be Shi­rou that comes to be in a envi­able posi­tion as his “seed” would be need­ed to main­tain the girls (either through Rin or direct­ly to saber if that wasn’t enough).
    The sit­u­a­tion between Rin and Saber is the same one as Saku­ra-Rid­er in Heav­en’s Feel true end­ing and they don’t have sex (because it’s not nec­es­sary thanks to the mas­ter-ser­vant link)

    3. Rin loves Shi­rou a lot.

    In Fate Hol­low Atarax­ia (sequel to the VN) she just wants to be a cou­ple with Shi­rou [like when Rin invites Shi­rou to go to her pri­vate pool in her house. Shi­rou says he’s gonna go tell Saber and Rin gets super mad. She tells him it’s a cou­ple’s date, so just the 2 of them will go]. In the ani­me [episode 11] all 3 of them go out togeth­er, but that was­n’t even close to a real date. Rin loves Saku­ra very much [you how much if you read Heav­en’s Feel] and at that time Rin still believed he was gonna end up with Saku­ra. Lat­er in the VN Shi­rou con­fess­es his love for Rin, but before that she bare­ly even con­sid­ered going out with him.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RMnTvLnV5oQ The whole scene up to minute 18 [scene 1] is very good. She crear­ly dis­cards saber and bla­tant­ly tells Shi­rou they’re the ones in a rela­tion­ship. Look at her face when Shi­rou says she wants to bring Saber to their date.

    Fate Hol­low Atarax­ia also shows a glimpse of future Rin (min­utes 9–16 of the youtube video). She’s no longer tsun­dere, she’s just lovestruck. At some point future Rin says: Rather than becom­ing hap­py togeth­er, I will, with no ques­tions asked, and more than any­one else, give him hap­pi­ness. It also rais­es more rea­sons for Rin to save Saber in the good end­ing Sun­ny Days. In the VN in order to reach that end­ing Shi­rou has to give Saber at least 4 points, which means he cares about her a lot more than in the true end­ing. In the VN Rin says to Shi­rou “you are too kind to Saber” and in the good end­ing she says “you want her to stay, so it’s alright”. She also says both of them will be train­ing Shi­rou, so it would­n’t be too far-fetched to think Shi­rou’s hap­pi­ness plays a big role in Rin sav­ing Saber in the good end­ing. After all she just does it in the end­ing where Shi­rou real­ly cares about her. 

    4. Rin’s unde­ni­able harem would have been Shi­rou- Rin — Archer, but Archer did­n’t accept.

    One more thing to con­sid­er is that she asks archer to remain in this world. This hap­pens in both the good and true end­ing (right before the good end­ing would come archer’s scene). Think that if archer had accept­ed Rin’s pro­pos­al both the true and hap­py end­ings would be the same.

    A) The true end­ing becomes Rin-Archer-Shirou
    B) Rhe good end­ing becomes Rin-Archer-Shirou

    By ask­ing archer to stay after­wards saber would have left this world had archer accept­ed (there’s not enough mana for both of them and even Rin knows saber isn’t self­ish to stay that way, by ask­ing archer she’s in a way betray­ing saber, that’s why she thinks “I know I should­n’t ask” (but she does ask…) and archer says “I do not know if you will keep your con­tract with saber, but I am nor qual­i­fied for that”)
    These quotes are tak­en from the VN.

    Notice that hav­ing a harem is what Nasu always does for Shi­rou (with the excep­tion of the Fate Route, where in the “last episode” in Real­ta Nua it is revealed he just gets saber.
    In UBW true end­ing Llu­via likes him very much and Nasu men­tioned they will have adven­tures even after grad­u­a­tion; in UBW good end­ing saber loves him (VN, Rin tells them not to flirt); In Heav­en’s Feel Rid­er loves him (amaz­ing love con­fes­sion in Atarax­ia); In Atarax­ia he gets every sin­gle hero­ine plus Caren and Bazett, it’s the ulti­mate harem, as the link reveals: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EBl8Ucfq9xE

  2. Very good sum­ma­ry XD

    A clar­i­fi­ca­tion: In the ani­me when Rin takes Shi­rou to Glagow to allow him to pay his respects to Saber the only one that actu­al­ly pays those respects is Shi­rou, not Rin (plus she says so as well: “you remem­ber how you told me that day that you wished you had the chance to say a prop­er good­bye. Now’s your chance”. Once they reach the tomb Rin says: “I’ll give you some time alone” and goes away to pre­pare the pic­nic. Shi­rou then says his good­bye words in front of her tomb. Well, I guess she could have said good­bye too while in the pic­nic with Shi­rou. At the end he says: “Thanks for tak­ing me there, it means a lot”.

    About the “three­some end­ing”, it is my believe it is just Shi­rou X Rin in the anime.

    In my opin­ion the UBW good end­ing (sun­ny day) is just Rin X Shi­rou in the ani­me (ova) . In the VN (and the ani­me if you don’t believe my next argu­ments) it would be Shirou’s harem (argu­ments 1–4).

    The rea­sons why I believe the ani­me is just Rin X Shirou:

    – Nasu said the ani­me occurs in a dif­fer­ent uni­verse with dif­fer­ent laws. Mana trans­fer, as shown in episode 20, doesn’t hap­pen through sex. Things can’t be tak­en from the Nasu­verse cause it doesn’t apply to this uni­verse. This uni­verse uses Real­ta Nua method.

    We can’t assume Rin is even bi-curi­ous either as we can’t take any­thing from oth­er routes giv­en this is a com­plete­ly dif­fer­ent uni­verse and oth­er routes would hap­pen in a dif­fer­ent way as well.

    Nasu said that in the ani­me the ones in a rela­tion­ship are Rin and Shi­rou. The ani­me shows Rin is straight. She is 100% focused on Shi­rou as a love part­ner. Then again, you can’t take any info from oth­er routes cause this is a dif­fer­ent uni­verse with dif­fer­ent rules and even the char­ac­ters are dif­fer­ent. In oth­er routes there would be no mana trans­fer through sex and
    Nasu also said the ani­me changes were rel­e­vant and that actions speak. Now, let’s see some of those changes just on the 7 minute (with­out cred­its) OVA.

    1. In the VN when talk­ing about the mana trans­fer all 3 of them are togeth­er. Shi­rou asks what his mana boost will be like and Saber says she wants to know as well how Shi­rou will boost mana. Rin blush­es a lot.

    In the ani­me this is a pri­vate con­ver­sa­tion between Shi­rou and Rin. Saber just stands 20 meters away look­ing into blank space.
    How do I inter­pret this?: They’re hav­ing a pri­vate con­ver­sa­tion and Saber knows that. Them being togeth­er means it’s just the 2 of them in love relat­ed mat­ters. Saber is an out­sider there, and waits for them to finish.

    2. In the VN Rin pulls saber (last CG). In the ani­me she grabs Shirou’s arm with both her arms, pulling him with one arm after­wards. Again, this shows Rin and Shi­rou are the hap­py cou­ple and removes pos­si­ble doubts.

    The rea­sons why I believe the VN is Shirou’s harem (and maybe the ova too if you don’t think it’s just Rin X Shi­rou) are:

    1. Saber:

    Shi­rou and Rin love each oth­er so who­ev­er saber likes will be the decid­ing fac­tor. In a harem sev­er­al peo­ple have feel­ings for some­one. Who does saber like?

    There is one whole route ded­i­cat­ed to the love between Shi­rou and Arturia. In “the last episode” saber waits for thou­sands of years for Shi­rou and cries when she sees him.
    In the UBW ani­me Rin says saber is way to ded­i­cat­ed to Shi­rou. In episode 23 saber says “Shi­rou, you are still my mas­ter”, in episode 24 before dying saber says “I am hap­py because Shi­rou has Rin”. In the V.N saber flirts with Shi­rou as Rin states and she says she stays just for him.
    If we look the oth­er way we’ll see that after Rin is forced to have sex with saber in the fate route H‑scene saber’s mind is 100% set on Shi­rou, it’s as if noth­ing ever hap­pened with Rin. This proves that no mat­ter what Rin does, saber nev­er sees Rin as a love interest.
    In the good end­ing the bond between Shi­rou and saber is even stronger than that of the true end­ing, strong enough for saber to kill Rin while destroy­ing the Grail with­out the need of a com­mand seal, although that didn’t hap­pen as Archer saved Rin in the last second.
    So we have a saber class ser­vant that will­ing­ly states “Shi­rou, you are still my mas­ter” (episode 23) while hav­ing anoth­er mas­ter, she will­ing­ly almost kills her real mas­ter and in the visu­al nov­el after Rin saves her she flirts with her master’s boyfriend.

    In Fate Hol­low Atarax­ia (the sequel to the VN) eclipse scenes we are shown that Heaven’s Feel is Shirou’s harem because Rid­er is fuck­ing him. There is anoth­er scene which is very inter­est­ing, the saber scene. In the game saber comes from the UBW good end­ing uni­verse. Her eclipse scene is her going inside the bath­room while Shi­rou is bathing. Shi­rou tells her to wait but she tells him not to wror­ry, she undress­es and bathes with him. After a while Shi­rou gets turned on and he says he’s unable to resist his instincts, so he they have sex. Saber was very hap­py Shi­rou would allow her to make love to him.
    So we see that Rin can’t lock Saber-Shi­rou from hap­pen­ing even if she wants. If all 3 of them are liv­ing togeth­er Saber can take any lit­tle chance to do that and let’s not for­get it is an eroge in which Shi­rou gives love points to both girls, a Saber-Shi­rou end­ing should hap­pen just like Rid­er X Shi­rou is con­firmered in Heaven’s Feel thanks to Fate Hol­low Ataraxia.
    The fact that Rin tells saber not to flirt with Shi­rou is proof of that something’s there and it’s been just 5 min­utes of them talk­ing since the war ended.

    2. Saber is Rin’s servant.

    If Rin had set saber free or giv­en her back to Shi­rou, Rin would have had to have sex with Saber out of neces­si­ty to give her mana (as there would be no mas­ter- ser­vant rela­tion­ship that would be the only way). Now, since saber and Rin main­tained their pact Rin has no need to have sex with her (as she sup­plies mana con­stant­ly thanks to her immense mag­i­cal knowl­edge) and it would be Shi­rou that comes to be in a envi­able posi­tion as his “seed” would be need­ed to main­tain the girls (either through Rin or direct­ly to saber if that wasn’t enough).
    The sit­u­a­tion between Rin and Saber is the same one as Saku­ra-Rid­er in Heaven’s Feel true end­ing and they don’t have sex (because it’s not nec­es­sary thanks to the mas­ter-ser­vant link)

    3. Rin loves Shi­rou a lot.

    In Fate Hol­low Atarax­ia (sequel to the VN) she just wants to be a cou­ple with Shi­rou [like when Rin invites Shi­rou to go to her pri­vate pool in her house. Shi­rou says he’s gonna go tell Saber and Rin gets super mad. She tells him it’s a couple’s date, so just the 2 of them will go]. In the ani­me [episode 11] all 3 of them go out togeth­er, but that wasn’t even close to a real date. Rin loves Saku­ra very much [you how much if you read Heaven’s Feel] and at that time Rin still believed he was gonna end up with Saku­ra. Lat­er in the VN Shi­rou con­fess­es his love for Rin, but before that she bare­ly even con­sid­ered going out with him.

    Fate Hol­low Atarax­ia also shows a glimpse of future Rin. She’s no longer tsun­dere, she’s just lovestruck. At some point future Rin says: Rather than becom­ing hap­py togeth­er, I will, with no ques­tions asked, and more than any­one else, give him hap­pi­ness. It also rais­es more rea­sons for Rin to save Saber in the good end­ing Sun­ny Days. In the VN in order to reach that end­ing Shi­rou has to give Saber at least 4 points, which means he cares about her a lot more than in the true end­ing. In the VN Rin says to Shi­rou “you are too kind to Saber” and in the good end­ing she says “you want her to stay, so it’s alright”. She also says both of them will be train­ing Shi­rou, so it wouldn’t be too far-fetched to think Shirou’s hap­pi­ness plays a big role in Rin sav­ing Saber in the good end­ing. After all she just does it in the end­ing where Shi­rou real­ly cares about her.

    4. Rin’s unde­ni­able harem would have been Shi­rou- Rin – Archer, but Archer didn’t accept.

    One more thing to con­sid­er is that she asks archer to remain in this world. This hap­pens in both the good and true end­ing (right before the good end­ing would come archer’s scene). Think that if archer had accept­ed Rin’s pro­pos­al both the true and hap­py end­ings would be the same.

    A) The true end­ing becomes Rin-Archer-Shirou
    B) Rhe good end­ing becomes Rin-Archer-Shirou

    By ask­ing archer to stay after­wards saber would have left this world had archer accept­ed (there’s not enough mana for both of them and even Rin knows saber isn’t self­ish to stay that way, by ask­ing archer she’s in a way betray­ing saber, that’s why she thinks “I know I shouldn’t ask” (but she does ask…) and archer says “I do not know if you will keep your con­tract with saber, but I am nor qual­i­fied for that”)
    These quotes are tak­en from the VN.

    Notice that hav­ing a harem is what Nasu always does for Shi­rou (with the excep­tion of the Fate Route, where in the “last episode” in Real­ta Nua it is revealed he just gets saber.
    In UBW true end­ing Llu­via likes him very much and Nasu men­tioned they will have adven­tures even after grad­u­a­tion; in UBW good end­ing saber loves him (VN, Rin tells them not to flirt); In Heaven’s Feel Rid­er loves him (amaz­ing love con­fes­sion in Atarax­ia); In Atarax­ia he gets every sin­gle hero­ine plus Caren and Bazett, it’s the ulti­mate harem.

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